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Exploring Unconventional Investments with Kevin Bupp

Season 4 · Episode 142January 21, 202548m

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Kevin Bupp is CEO and founder of Sunrise Capital Investors, a boutique private equity firm that does exactly two things and nothing else: mobile home parks and parking facilities. He bought his first property at age 20 and has been a full-time investor his entire adult life. By 2007, his portfolio was 122 single family homes across five counties plus a few small multifamily buildings up to 72 units. Then 2008 hit. He lost everything. Primary residence gone, every investment property gone, bank accounts garnished. Three years from 2008 to 2011 were spent on nothing but damage control on the existing portfolio. The rebuild started in 2011 with a single lunch meeting that changed the asset class he would spend the next 14 years buying.

The lunch was with a retired commercial banker named Randy in Tampa Bay. Randy had done loans for mobile home and RV park operators for the last decade of his banking career and realized he was sitting on the wrong side of the P&L. He had three parks of his own by the time he and Kevin met. He spent two hours explaining why the asset class beat multifamily, particularly on tenant stickiness (residents own their homes; many stay 20, 30, 50+ years) and management intensity (the homeowner calls the plumber, not the operator). Kevin left the lunch and committed to buying his first park. Took him a year. Closed in 2012. The next 13 years built Sunrise into a firm that has owned more than 50 communities across 18 states, currently holds 17 to 18 with about 3,500 lots, and is operating Fund IV at $100 million.

What landed in this conversation:

  1. Why they stopped selling. Kevin's biggest professional regret is selling six or seven of the best parks they ever owned. Returns were grand slams. Investors loved the front end. But every sale triggered recapture plus capital gains, every refill required finding a new asset Kevin knew less about than the one he sold, and they were not making more mobile home parks. Sunrise restructured Fund IV around long-term holds, continuous cash-out refinances, and 1031s when sales are unavoidable. Their investor profile shifted with the strategy. They are no longer a fit for IRR-driven buyers chasing two-to-three-year turnarounds. They are a fit for investors who already have wealth and want consistent quarterly cash flow without a tax burden every three years.
  2. The four lines of the parking buy box. Sunrise looks at roughly 100 parking deals to find one that fits, and they have only bought one a year for the past five years. The first filter is that parking must be the lowest use the lot will ever see. Meaning whatever the asset is doing today, eventually that footprint becomes worth dramatically more as something else, and Sunrise underwrites zero of that future value. Today's parking economics have to carry the deal on their own. The second filter is inelastic demand: the asset must be the closest parking to whatever drives the local foot traffic. Their Clearwater Beach garage is one block from the sand and covered. Their downtown Charlotte garage is a stone's throw from the Spectrum Center (where the Hornets play). Their downtown Phoenix garage sits next to the Maricopa County Courthouse (second largest courthouse in the country) with Phoenix Suns and Diamondbacks stadiums two blocks away, plus a full entertainment district across the street. The third filter is 24/7-C: daytime, nighttime, weekends, all generating demand. The fourth filter is that office cannot be the dominant demand driver, because that is a problem nobody knows how to solve and nobody is willing to underwrite.
  3. The Charlotte deal as a master class in distressed unwind. The Charlotte garage Sunrise just closed came packaged in a CMBS loan that was in special servicing, but the garage itself was not in distress. The garage shared a parcel ID with a Wake Forest University office building (where Wake Forest had given back 70% of its lease) and a Doubletree hotel. Three properties, one loan, one parcel. Kevin's team submitted a revised plat while under contract, lined up a separate buyer for the office (who is now converting it to 280 market-rate apartments at essentially zero basis on the building) and sold the ground lease to the existing Doubletree operator. Sunrise walked out with the garage they wanted, at a deep discount, with the office and hotel risk handed to operators better suited to it. They get paid as real estate professionals to solve complex problems. That deal was the textbook.
  4. The 2008 lesson Kevin would unsay. He spent three years post-crash hunkered on his own bleeding portfolio and shut himself off from the broader market. He knew the adage about buying when there is blood in the streets. He could not act on it when it was his own blood. If he could rewind, he would have pulled his boots back up faster and started buying in 2009 or 2010, when the discounts on the table were the largest most operators will see in their careers. He still bought heavily once he started, but the missing 24 months were the best window of the cycle.

The mentor line Kevin credits with reshaping how he thinks about scale came from Rod Cleave, who showed him that staffing is an asset, not a liability. Bigger is not better for its own sake, but a certain scale is necessary to hire people who are better than you at specific functions, which is what creates a business that runs without you. That reframe was the difference between Kevin running 122 single family homes himself in chaos and Kevin running a $100M fund with a team that lets him coach his eight-year-old and his eleven-year-old's activities and disappear to the boat without anything breaking.

The book he gifts most often is The Go-Giver by Bob Burg. Short, sweet, high-impact, hard to find a Sunrise staff member who has not received a copy. Kevin's own book, The Cashflow Investor, is on Amazon and is built to be a reference manual rather than a cover-to-cover read.

Reach Kevin at investwithsunrise.com for the current Fund IV offering, or find him on LinkedIn under his unusual last name (B-U-P-P).

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